Sorry, @famousone are you more American than I am? Are you more important or meaningful? You keep saying “Americans don’t want it” but I’m American. My parents are. My neighbors are. My spouse is. Many of my friends are. And we want this. So, what you mean to say is that some Americans don’t want it. But the statement Americans don’t want it, is just wrong.

The American medical system is voluntary if you have the wealth to choose to participate or not. For a large number of Americans the current system is not voluntary nor is it wanted. You can’t choose to participate if you can’t afford to.

It’s amazing that every other first world country has figured out how to socialize medicine to the benefit of the population but Americans are too [whatever] to make it work...
How Is a system where people have to beg for help and hope they can get the life saving procedure/care better that the system that the entire western world employs (that provides this care)?

That’s right. Delivery man be warned.

Wow. That’s amazing and terrible. Thanks for getting the story.

American here. I am 100% for socialized medicine. We have clear examples of how well it works in many other western countries.
Because of the rhetoric that turns socialized into socialist, how we use the words in the discussion is very important. So no, having great employer sponsored healthcare is not socialist nor is it an example of socialized medicine. But in this case, it is an example of how the leaders that push the case for keeping the private system don’t have to live the life of their median constituent. They are enjoying the type of healthcare and benefits that everyone could have if we had properly funded socialized care and regulations that forced employers to treat their employees like humans—but it is not socialist.

No, I’m not saying that. I’m agreeing that the fact that some people have good pto and healthcare access doesn’t make the things socialist AND pointing out that people who have good pto and healthcare access may not see the need to push policies that provide those benefits to everyone.
Though, does it count as socialist if only the governing class get the benefit and not the society?

They aren’t socialist.
But also, if you have great healthcare and lots of PTO and enough money to contract whatever services you need, you maybe don’t see why someone without those things may want to have access too.

Nah. Totally different scale. ;)

I really appreciated her message too. I love my black kitties. :) I have two black cats and a tabby.

Our only solace, of course.

The Imagination Library is better than that. All kids (until a certain age) are eligible if the program is available in your area. There’s no proving you meet the criteria, you just sign up and they send your kid books. It’s really neat.

Lol. You trying to make a little girl cry?