i respect most people, but i'm still an asshole

agreed, but doesn't mean you show disrespect before they earned it

i recently rewatched them all, now on fast and furious

as you believe that there is only a small chance someone would be shot, during a riot, if someone shows up with a rifle, that says it all for what you believe. I'm not arguing with the that, I would have guess, and correctly, that the chances were high, and for it to be a complete surprise to you, shows a level of ignorance that's rarely seen.

I only go to the shooting range with guns, I know the laws on self defense, also know how to pre-empt a situation and know that bringing a gun to a riot would have a high chance of someone being shot.
Put it this way, if i go to a riot, with a gun, with the purpose to kill someone, but also to protect property, is it intent, or self defense when someone attacks first?

I know exactly between the concepts, it's not, again, that he defended himself, but I think if he didn't bring a gun, he most likely would not have been targeted. That so hard to understand?

yeah, fish in a barrel, hard to miss someone right in front of you

yes I know, can even carry a first aid kit, but it's an opportunity to shoot fish in a barrel, legally.

fair enough, at least i know i can bring a rifle to a riot in the US and shoot people in self defense.

haha, i just skipped to it, but then realised i had a low quality version, so upgraded them now

i think unlikely that would have happened, they might have left him alone if he was unarmed.

as i said, numerous times, it's not that he had to defend himself, it's that he brought a gun in the first place.
You see a small chance he'd have to use it, I see a very high chance that either he, or someone would get shot.

That's the police, not a civilian, and police usually are in force when going into a volatile situation.
But as famous said, he, as well with a lot believe, bringing a rifle to a RIOT, with a history of violence, has a "small" chance of anyone being shot.

that's where i see it differently, as do many others where I am, bringing a rifle to a riot there's a high chance someone is going to get shot.
And that brings up another point, say next riots, there are now dozens of armed people "defending" property, when does an assualt beging? threats, physical violence, or the perception that one is about to come to harm?

once again, it's not about him defending himself, it's bringing a rifle to a riot where, as it's been mentioned, there were assaults, arson, property damage.
Do you really believe that there wasn't the thought that he'd have to use it against those people?

your questions are not, did a girl wearing a skirt go out prepared to be raped? as opposed to a guy going to a riot, is prepared to shoot and kill someone.
Answer this, what's the likelihood that a rifle being brought to a riot will be used to shoot someone? small chance, or a high chance?

nah, watched this scene, there's no blaster fire in the background, might have been on an earlier version of it, before it was picked up and removed

your question from before is irrelevant, the question remains, do you really believe bringing a rifle to a volatile situation won't end in someone getting shot?
yes, Kyle didn't use his gun until he was attacked. I'm just saying, it's now a legal precedent to bring a rifle to a riot and kill someone legally as long as you're attacked first.

and even though that's possible, and it's legally allowed, you still don't see that as happening

no, because he's been found innocent, say someone wants to go kills a rioter, they go under the guise of protecting property. Stand in the way of rioters and wait for the moment they are attacked to open fire, it still is self defense, but with the knowledge that bringing a rifle will end in someone getting shot.
My issue isn't that Kyle defended himself, it was bringing the rifle in the first place, I don't see how there would have been any other outcome than a shooting.

what's to prevent someone going in and saying they are protecting property, and waiting for the moment to be confronted and attacked?