Hate that

yes, it made it easier for us to buy things, but it sapped all of our jobs out. you can't trade cheap import for American manufacturing. the thing here is we saw the results and it doesn't help. yes you can get your cheap walmart goods, but you are forced to go there because you can't afford anything else. i am not on a high horse, i am just tired of people whining about him winning. it's done, now hope for the best. more of the same wasn't working. the last 8 years, shoot the last 16 years sucked. we need to bring manufacturing back and create jobs again. we need the government to make it easier to build in America, not harder. seriously would you have wanted hillary to win win and get $15/hr? jumping to $8/hr created automated checkout boom we see. it nearly doubled the cost of most of our food. it forced more jobs over seas. you can't say he isn't a good negotiator when we are already seeing positive results.

It didn't sap our jobs out, you're wrong. Technological advancement sapped out our jobs. American manufacturing is currently producing the most it has ever produced with the fewest employees possible because of tech advancement. I'm not whining about him winning, I'm lamenting his lack of knowledge regarding the economic consensus that free trade is great for all parties involved. It's like he's never heard of comparative advantage or something. I'm a proponent of abolishing the minimum wage entirely. Sure he's a great negotiator, but that's not what I posted about. My post is about his trade protectionist trade policy which is misguided and will hurt Americans.

i am sorry for assuming everything i did, least this is a conversation strictly on nafta. you can't say it didn't help sap jobs out. with the government over regulating and over taxing our businesses nafta hurt us. it was sound in it's reasoning, but we couldn't compete because how our government hurts our growing businesses and how other governments help theirs. many of our big manufacturing businesses left, nafta only helped. sorry i will have to get back with this conversation i go to work in 30 min and i will be working for the next 12 hours. i'll get back into this conversation when i get back

Take your time and I appreciate you keeping it intellectual.

i try to keep all discussions civil. i prefer debates over arguments. ok, back to what i was saying. the concept of nafta was good, but it has lead to many of our businesses leaving our country because they don't get any punishment to do so. we may still have production, but that is strictly due to the higher amount of production over all. the fact is we are not getting enough jobs in manufacturing to keep our economy stable. we need to give incentives for businesses to come back. now this isn't just nafta, this is all trade. this isn't just trade it is regulations. i think our whole import/export system needs to be reset. we need to make America a country of production like it once was. we are strong people that created this country with hard work and perspiration. i think free trade shouldn't apply to businesses that ditch our country for cheaper labor.